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I'm starting to think that I'm not meant to date.  My attempts at dating (or just making a new friend) are such train wrecks.  I think I mentioned that I had met this woman through school.  She's my age, single, a lesbian.  And before we had met, I had asked her if she wanted to go to coffee.  She had said yes.  Then I ran into her the other night at dinner in my community, which was a weird coincidence, but she was visiting with another student in our community.  She suggested that we go out Friday, after her class was over.  I said I would have to get back to her, since I didn't know what time graduation was on Friday.  No problem.  So I emailed her a few days ago.  Nothing.  I called her last night and left a message, asking her if she still wanted to go out today.  Nothing.  Weird.  Why blow me off?  We've never really met or talked.  I don't think I could have said anything that offended her.  Maybe, now that she's seen me, she knows that she's not attracted to me.  That's totally fair.  But we're both students at this small graduate school in counseling.  Surely we can try to get together and see if we have any friendship potential, right?  Apparently not.  I've been blown off.  The weird thing is that we're going to be taking the same class this summer, a weekend intensive workshop.  Maybe it doesn't feel bad to her to blow someone off, so she doesn't have to worry about facing me in the future?  This is the third time this spring that someone has brazenly blown me off.  What?  Am I giving off some sort of weird "be mean to me" vibe?

Earlier this spring I had asked another woman out.  She said yes.  And she even called me once to ask me out.  We finally set a date (I didn't really care all that much, I have to admit, and by the time she blew me off, I was thinking that being around her wasn't such a good thing for me), and then she blew me off.  We were supposed to go hiking one afternoon, and she called me to tell me that she had already taken her dog to the dog park that day, so she wasn't really in the mood for a hike.  She left that message on my voicemail.  Now, I figured that she probably wasn't into me.  No big deal.  I really do like to make new single friends so I have someone other than Joy to go out with on weekends.  I like meeting new people anyhow.  But blowing me off because your dog doesn't need the exercise is rude.  The message clearly was: I was only spending time with you to exercise my dog, and he no longer needs it.  That was weeks ago and she hasn't called since.  Frankly, I'm okay with that.  She was in a car accident earlier this year (maybe at the end of last year) and all she talks about these days is her head injury.  I'm sure it has seriously changed her life (she stopped working months ago), but something about that situation gave me the willies.

And my friend, Nicole also blew me off.  We had been hanging out together, and then she got back together with her former gf, and that was it for me.  I never heard from her again.  We had plans (even tickets to something) together, and  she simply blew me off.  Didn't return my phone calls.  Nothing.  Why would you do that to a friend?  We had been friends for a long time.  I have heard that she's even gotten herself a new job in Santa Fe (she lives in ABQ), and she's broken up with that gf, but still, I haven't heard from her.  I doubt I ever will again.  Eventually, I'll see her at some event.  I won't know what to say.  I imagine I'll just avoid her, as though I've done something wrong.  I wonder if she'll just act like it never happened.  I'm a good friend, loyal, reliable.  I would never do that to a friend, and if, for some weird reason, I did, I think I would apologize for my crappy behavior.  I'm pretty good at taking responsibility for it when I make a mistake.  I called a parent today to apologize for making a mistake (with the SATs no less) regarding her son.  Oops.  I took care of it, but I'm willing to admit when I've done something stupid.

Has my karma brought this on me?  Have I treated someone very badly?  Or is this just the universe's way of telling me that I can't date right now?
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starswolf From: [info]starswolf Date: June 6th, 2008 11:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and talking about it with several people who are all having similar experiences. I don't think it's just you. Pretty much everyone has to struggle to find people who want to hang out with them reliably or regularly. It's a lifelong struggle.

I don't think most people are really that busy-- that is, people do all sorts of things that have little value. It's just, mutually being enough of each other's priority to actually sustain a lasting and active friendship is rare. We are in a society where valuing other people isn't particularly encouraged. And most people have low self-esteem when it comes to friendships. And doing the work to keep them up is a risk of constant rejection. And some people will just disappear when a primary romantic partner comes along.

But I think a lot of people are walking around thinking "I wish I was friends with so-and-so but they seem to have a bunch of other friends [are too busy, are too cool, are too whatever] and probably wouldn't want to be friends with me" and meanwhile the other person feels the same thing. It's kind of dumb.

But I'm constantly talking to people who feel the same way you do. Most people want more friends and/or higher quality friendships, yet I also think most people are socially weary and afraid.

At least you try. Most of the time I am so tired of the challenge and the roller coaster and the emotional cost that I don't even bother.

Sometimes I wish I was older and lived in Santa Fe. Then we could go hiking :)
sfgeek From: [info]sfgeek Date: June 6th, 2008 11:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
But why blow me off? Tell me you're too busy to go out. I don't mind being turned down. But blown off makes me feel lousy. And since I both called and emailed, there isn't any question that she didn't get the messages. It is just so weird and rude.

You wouldn't have to be older to go hiking with me! I think we'd be great friends. But alas you're moving to Pennsylvania....
sagefemme11 From: [info]sagefemme11 Date: June 7th, 2008 12:36 am (UTC) (Link)
I love how thoughtful you are. I love how you analyzed this situation in the larger scope: it's actually a cultural phenomenon instead of an individual event---YES! I agree with that. I think we are collectively forgetting how to form and maintain bonds of true friendship as our global communication develops.

I also think people such as yourselves make for amazing friends and I love having you BOTH of you on my flist.

So there!
sagefemme11 From: [info]sagefemme11 Date: June 7th, 2008 12:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Mercury's in retrograde right now, communication is difficult for all homo sapiens on the planet Earth.

Faith, Girl. The right partner is coming. I think the program you are in will point you in a direction somehow that enhances your ability to partner with an astounding woman. Faith.
soulful_aimee From: [info]soulful_aimee Date: June 7th, 2008 04:01 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't know why these people blow others off but I think many people would rather avoid the situation than be confrontational. I know this is totally different, but I counsel people in a tobacco program that the clients themselves enroll in. I can't tell you how many hundreds of people I've called to offer support who just hang up on me rather than confronting me and telling me why they don't want to talk! It's amazing--something they signed up for and they can't just tell me not to call! Like I said, different situation, but I think it says alot about people.

I'm sorry. For what it's worth I hear alot of people have trouble finding good friends/partners. So no, I don't think it's karma.

mcclure77 From: [info]mcclure77 Date: June 9th, 2008 02:25 am (UTC) (Link)
Hi, I've never replied on your blog before, although I occasionally stop by to read it. I'm a friend of Genhawk's and you and I met in person this past winter, I believe.

Anyway, I have had a lot of this same experience lately myself. I have had several friends just not return my calls for months. In fact, recently a friend moved to Chicago and I happened to be there visiting a few weeks ago. We had made tenative plans to get together, and I called to finalize several times and called while I was there, and she just never returned any of my calls. It's very rude and strange.

I think it must be cultural....it seems like it happens so often these days, and everyone acts like they should be excused for it. I was in chicago visiting my friend of 33 years, and she and I have worked to maintain our friendship across the distances all this time. It's like other people take friendships for granted.

This leads me to a slight digression. I saw the Sex and the City movie last week, and it was quite good. I think what I like most about that show and the movie is the friendship that those 4 women share. I am so jealous of that. The fact that they all stay in the same town (or are rich enough to fly back on a whim) and commit to each other, to put each other before the various relationships in their life. That seems to never happen in real life. I keep friends for long times, but we all are spread across the contry (and/or world) and don't end up staying in touch as much as I'd like.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.
sfgeek From: [info]sfgeek Date: June 10th, 2008 03:47 am (UTC) (Link)
Weird about your friend in Chicago. I guess you can understand my obsessing over this then. It is just so weird that someone would just blow anyone off. I understand a quick email to say, "sorry, I'm too tired, or busy, or just no can do," but what's with the no response? Do people have no manners.

I do, of course, know who you are!

I loved Sex in the City for that reason, and because I'm from NYC. I love that I do have friends here for a long time. I think that comes with just being older (for me anyhow). I've lived here for 10 years, and I've had the same friends (and new ones now and then when they aren't flaking out) for a long time. I have dinner every Friday night and brunch Sunday morning with the same friends. I love that. Unfortunately, they are moving at the end of the month. I'm in denial about it.
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